ScotRail Mk 3 refurbishment plan

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• AndrewJGwilt1989 - 27/12/2017 12:00

  As ScotRail are inheriting some of the Class 43 HST’s. Why not transfer the rest of the Class 43 HST’s from Grand Central &/or GWR to East Midlands Trains and some to Arriva Trains Wales to operate on Holyhead-Crewe/Manchester services. With some of the Class 43’s to be used on freight duties. As the Class 800’s, Class 801’s And Class 802’s IET’s that will be operated on the GWML, Cornish Main Line, London-Oxford & Cotswolds, ECML, London-Leeds, London-York, Transpennine routes and London-Hull “Hull Trains” services.

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  • BigTone - 27/12/2017 17:20

    Actually 3 HST sets are going from Grand Central to EMT. The idea is to cascade internally Meridian units to release Class 158s to help out with other services within the franchise (Meridians to the Liverpool - Norwich service?)

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    • AndrewJGwilt1989 - 28/12/2017 12:05

      Ok. So the Class 222’s Meridians could be replaced and possibly end up operating on other EMT routes such as Liverpool Lime Street-Norwich. And some might even be transferred to Arriva Crosscountry to replace the Class 43’s HST on Newcastle/Manchester-Exeter/Plymouth/Truro/Pencanze and Birmingham-Plymouth/Penzance and other Crosscountry routes.

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      • BigTone - 28/12/2017 13:55

        No, the idea is to release Class 158s to help out overcrowded services that are currently being run by single car units WITHIN the franchise. However, something will be needed to be done with all the HSTs that EMT has in the next two (?) years because of the disability regs.

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        • AndrewJGwilt1989 - 29/12/2017 13:00

          Probably you are right.

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        • FrankH - 29/12/2017 14:25

          Seeing as Scotrail has has found it more effective (rather than buy new) to make HST's disability compliant why don't other TOC's do it.

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        • AndrewJGwilt1989 - 31/12/2017 11:12

          Northern might have the Class 158’s to cover with services in the West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and South Trans-Pennine routes.

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          • BigTone - 03/01/2018 23:38

            Why? Northern are receiving Class 158s from Scotrail soon. 158782/6/9/ 867/8/9/70 and 871 They are also getting GWR Class 150/1s and 16 off Class 170. 453-461 and 472-478 Not to mention the brand new units will be coming in the next couple of years

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